it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> we've reconnected with piers morgan. he's joining us from new york. you had a pretty good interview over there, piers, with tyler hamilton who was betrayed by lance armstrong. he doesn't seem as angry, i was saying, as some of the others who were totally betrayed by lance armstrong. what's your take on what's going on? >> i was amazed by how lacking in bitterness or anger tyler hamilton was because he said all this stuff about lance armstrong. and lance armstrong turned on him as he has against everybody who's accused him of doping. he put the arm on him a year and a half ago, met him and said, if you go ahead and testify, i'm going to get you. this is the kind of man you're dealing with. when i hear about lance armstrong making some kind of comeback or getting redemption, he's got a very, very long way to go, wolf. this is a guy who i think -- if you're looking at this dispassionately has been the most systematic and appalling cheat in the history of american sport. >> let's also bring in dr. gail saltz into this conver